AAPI Heritage Month on HotMovies continued on Thursday, May 12th when host Jada Kai joined worldly beauty Viva Athena live on the HotMovies Instagram. Viva talked about being raised in Hong Kong, being discriminated against for her darker skin tone, and how she got around the strict rules of the boarding school she attended. Check out their fun conversation below, or watch the video on HotMovies’ Instagram!
JKi: Everyone, happy Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month. I’m Jada Kai, your host today and we are going live with Viva Athena. I’m very excited because I haven’t met Viva yet. Today is gonna be my first time with her. She has quite a few movies on HotMovies. So after this, go and check it out. Let me put my phone on silent [laughter] and she should be in here any minute now. Let me just go ahead and invite her. At the end we’ll be taking questions. If you see a little question mark right there on the bottom, that should be on the right-hand corner, you can throw in your questions and we’ll go ahead and ask her at the end.
VA: Hi Jada. [chuckle]
Hi Viva. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too. Yeah.
How are you?
I’m doing good. I’m so excited. Thank you for having me here.
Of course I’m excited to have you and meet you.
This is so exciting. I’m still like… [laughter]
Don’t worry. I have butterflies too. Every time I go live, I just like have butterflies and I can’t help it.
I’m sure this will be fun. Thank you again though.
[laughter] Of course. Happy Asian American Pacific Islander Month.
Yes.
Okay. So I was reading up about you, and I wanted to talk about your background a little bit, because it’s very unique. I guess I’ll start talking about it a little bit. You were born in Hong Kong, correct?
Yes.
And you are a half-Filipino like me [laughter] and half-Pakistani, correct?
That’s right.
Yeah. And then you ended up moving to the US for boarding school?
I did, yeah. I was 14 and I went to Oregon. It was a very religious school.
Okay.
But I had a lot fun there. Then I went to Iowa for college.
Wow.
I remember going places that like, I know are so different than where I came from, if that makes sense.
Yeah, for sure. What was the transition like? What were the biggest differences?
So growing up in Hong Kong, every school I went to, I would be the only non-Chinese. So after kindergarten, my mom, she tried to get me and my sister into Chinese local school, but the school would turn us away. They’re like, “They are not Chinese. How are they gonna keep up with the curriculum?” So my mom, she had to go to the Department of Education in Hong Kong and like, “Hey, I want my kids to go to Chinese school.” So she was told to hire someone to train our Chinese. And right before the school year, they would test us. If they think we’re good enough, they would let us in. And so my mom got tutor for both of me and my sister. We practiced hard on our Cantonese writing and…
Wow.
We got in. We were like one of the first non-Chinese students to go to the schools in our district. It was scary. [laughter]
That’s crazy.
It is. So it’s like for me going to the US, ’cause the US just seemed like they have all sorts of different people. So I was like, “Maybe if I go there, it won’t be as awkward and I won’t stand out as much.” And yeah. I love it here. [laughter]
That’s awesome. I feel like in the US people think that… Jade Kush and I were talking about it and she called it like… Everyone thinks that Asia is very monocultural, but in actuality it’s like all the countries are very different.
Truly. Especially with Filipinos, we’re all over the place. In Hong Kong, if you go there, every Sunday you would see all the Filipinos coming out going to church. It’s amazing how diverse even the cities within each country in Asia could be.
Did you get, I guess, stigmatized for being a darker Asian?
Definitely. [laughter]
Yeah. When you were talking about how they didn’t let you guys go to school, I was like, I remember being in Korea and people would call me a “juicy,” because most of the Filipino girls over in Korea that were Filipino were “juices,” which means hookers. So they would just be like, “Oh, you must be a hooker or whatever.” And, they would just be really mean to me because I wasn’t light-skin Asian or whatever.
Pretty brutal. But you kinda learn pretty quickly to not let it affect you, just ’cause you’re so young. How are you gonna… Like, “Oh, I’m a different color.” That’s why they’re treating me different. ‘Cause they didn’t, couldn’t place where I was from. So they would just call me the English girl, when I was in Hong Kong. And I remember the first day of school in elementary school, my class teacher came up and she didn’t speak any English. My mom was there asking her like, “Oh. What sorts of books will she need to get?” And I had to translate 400 books. And this teacher, she just hugged me. And the issue there was I had to leave the school after six months ’cause this teacher was making me translate letters into English for her ’cause she couldn’t do it.
Wow.
I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to do that. So my mom pulled me out. [laughter]
Wow.
It was odd. And they definitely… ‘Cause they’re so used to darker-skin Asians being maids, cleaner and…
Right.
It was annoying.
Yeah. Even in the Philippines… Have you been to the Philippines?
I have. And it’s just, ’cause I’m a lot taller and everyone just got stares, and they come up to me and they’re like, “Can I take pictures with you?” And it’s like, yeah. My mom was 4’11” and my dad, he was like 6’9″. So when we were in Philippines, my sister is about like… She’s that much taller than me. So my mom just looks so little next to us and people are like, “These kids are yours?” walking around the Philippines. And how many times have you been you been to the Philippines?
I’ve been to the Philippines like four times I think.
How long have you stayed there?
Like four months total I think.
Awesome. And what area? Do you know like…
So my family is not too far. It’s like a very small province, but it’s a little bit away from Manila.
Okay. My mom is from the islands up top. They get a lot of Thai foods.
Oh cool. Yeah. In the Philippines they would even like… They would be like, “Jada!” That’s not my real name but they would be like, “Stay away from the sun because you look like a beggar.” I’d be like, “Oh my god!”
Oh. I was handed whitening cream by my relatives. They’re like, “This will help. You know your knees are dark.” It’s like…
Yeah. I feel like everywhere in Asia it’s like everyone would have whitening lotion. It’s hard to find lotion that’s not whitening lotion.
I’ve worked in Book Fair in Hong Kong which is indoor, but they have glass. People would have their sun umbrella indoors, blocking the sunlight through the glass out. I was like, “This is… ” I understand outside, but inside? They’d be on the escalator just like…
I think it’s really cool now, because I think more and more people are starting to embrace darker-skin Asians and they’re like, “It’s okay to be darker skin.”
I agree with you.
You don’t have to bleach your skin.
But I do notice there’s certain companies that would do that.
Yes. For sure.
I’ve spent some time talking to people I’ve shot with and they’re like, “Yeah. What’s your ethnicity?” And I explain it to them. I’m like, “Yey. It is exciting, I wanna see the video.” A couple weeks later it’s Latina, Viva Latina. And I was like, “Oh, really?”
Yeah. We’re like the chameleon. Well being Filipino, it’s like you kind of look like every ethnicity. So they’re like, “Whatever works for us.”
Pretty much.
So did you grow up with mostly Chinese cultural influence or…?
I did.
A little bit of everything?
It was definitely mostly Chinese and Filipino growing up. I learned math on this… it’s like an abacus. I still have the same one I learned on from elementary school.
Wait, really?
This actually has made my math so much better. But I remember spending hours on this growing up in Hong Kong, ’cause I couldn’t keep up with the math curriculum. So the teacher’s like, “Oh. Have her join the abacus class every Saturday,” so that I would go in and just count beads and the teacher would give out like okay, four plus six plus seven plus nine. And you have to do it quick and give the answer. And this… The first part of the test, you get to keep your thing. But then the second part you have to kind of like air it on the table and do the math in your head. And it is just… Compared to the education I got in boarding school in Oregon, it was definitely way more grueling, ’cause there was just so much pressure to keep up and do well, versus in the US going to school. It’s more like, “Have fun. Let’s learn about this. You can ask questions. Let’s have conversation about the topics,” versus quiet.
Yes. I feel like there is such huge pressure that they put over there over children in Asia.
Truly. I think parents still bring it over, when they move to different places though. Like…
For sure.
My mom was like, “Be a doctor. Be a lawyer.” So I went to college going, “I wanna be a vet.” But she would tell her relatives, “She’s gonna be a doctor,” but she wouldn’t specify. I’m like, “Mom.” Yeah. I did switch to design, like graphic design, after. And when I told her she was like… She used to work in factories where she made Converse shoes in the Philippines and her only conception of a graphic designer is someone that works in a factory and design shoes. So she was like, “You’re gonna work in a factory? What are you doing? Design?” But after I got outta school and I was working from home doing design work she understood it more. And ’cause I was working from home in college too, I started camming at 18, and it’s kind of like by day I would do design work and then I would cam here and there and it was on Streamate I signed up I remember. ‘Cause I like traveling, so I really need money to go travel. Then I also started sugaring and I came up with a friend sugaring. So we would travel together in Europe and it was so much fun. It just funded the whole trip as we go. And the importance of it it’s just like having a friend to keep you safe.
Yeah. Wow. Okay. So how did you find out about camming?
I already knew camming was a thing, just ’cause being at Hong Kong when my mom was there, she owned a computer cafe, and Filipino girls would come through, and they would have their little curtains around their computer, and my mom would tell me what they were doing.
Ohhh…
I already knew what it was, and I liked the idea ’cause I was in college in Iowa. I was home. It’s cold outside, [chuckle] and I can just kind of like get on and chat. And from there, I started just uploading videos onto different sites, and I was thinking like, “I wanna move to California.” I wanted to see like, check out the porn scene a little. So I flew out, I think it was 2019, to LA and signed with my agent at the time and shot a couple of scenes. I had a lot of fun, but then COVID shut everything down. And I was lucky enough to have met the producer that I’m with right now, and we got to get together and make a bunch of videos. And we created COVID Couple. It was a lot of fun. And from there, I just… I don’t know. Just never feel like I wanna go back to shooting with companies, just ’cause I could do it from home, with someone I love, and have more time to myself.
Yes. You can always do what you wanna do and no one has to push you into scenes like, “No, I don’t… That’s really not my thing but I guess I’ll do it because it’s a gig.” You don’t have to go through any of that. You can just keep producing what you wanna produce.
I agree. And it’s like the traveling… Like no one talks about the traffic in between scenes. I didn’t expect to sit in the car for hours being in LA. There was one time after a scene, I got hungry. I was in the… I don’t even to remember. Just an area far away from the Koreantown I wanted to visit for food, ’cause I was really hungry. So I took an Uber over and it was less than an hour, decent. On the way back, it was like three hours in this Uber. I’m just sitting there where me and the driver already talk through everything in life. It’s awkward now. It’s just like, “I can’t do this. The traffic is terrible. It’s too long.”
Yeah, for sure. It’s crazy. If you are in a car during rush hour time, it’s just like the worst. So when you’re in a car with an Uber, and they’re like, “Oh, so what do you do for a living?” are you honest with them?
It depends. If they’re picking me up somewhere where it’s like… ‘Cause I had one time where it’s in Arizona where it’s in the hill really hard to get to. And then I’m coming out with a suitcase, just loading it all. That I would tell. But usually I’ll just say, “Oh. It’s just a model shoot.” It’s innocent. [chuckle] Just ’cause… I don’t know. It might be a long car ride, I don’t want it get too awkward.
For sure. So going back a little bit, you said that boarding… To me when I hear boarding school, I think of super fancy Gossip Girl boarding school, a little… [chuckle]
Just a little bit of that, but it’s interesting, ’cause going into this boarding school, I thought it was gonna be a lot of American students. But ’cause it’s an international boarding school, it was only maybe like 10% American and 50% Chinese from mainland. In Hong Kong, we speak Cantonese versus in China we speak Chinese. So my Chinese was okay, ’cause they taught it to us in school versus my Cantonese was really fluent. So I went to boarding school. It was kind of like Chinese students were nitpicking my Chinese, so they… It affected a lot of my Chinese. And I told my mom, I’m like, “Mom, I came to US and improve my Chinese.” It was hilarious. [laughter]
Wait, so you said the school, they did Mandarin?
No, it was just that half the student body was Chinese, so when we were on our own, they would just speak Chinese with each other. And we had Russians. We have Ukrainians. Actually looking back, we had a lot of Koreans. We had Columbians… It was just so diverse. So on top of just regular teen drama, there’s cultural aspects where it’s like, “Oh, it’s rude for other people to do this but it’s not really to do certain things.” And I think that really just taught me so many different cultures, ’cause all these girls would be in the kitchen cooking together, trying each other’s food, ’cause you’re with these people like 24/7. The only thing…
So did you live in a dorm? Was it a dorm?
So, yeah, there’s one old building, that’s the girls’ dorm. The basement is two classrooms though, so I remember my last year, my first period was in the basement, it was so great to just get up at 7:58, put on clothes and get into class at 8:00, ’cause just in the basement. But there’s one girls’ dorm and then two boys’ dorm, and then it’s like different buildings for classroom and then the cafeteria. It’s a pretty big campus, but if you’re there 24/7 for three years, it gets pretty old quick. And it’s always less than 150 students, so we all get pretty tight, some not in good ways. [chuckle] If you date people, you’re now like stuck seeing them everyday, seeing them date other people, date your friends. [chuckle] But the religious part was just really hypocritical to me. [chuckle]
Yeah, I went to a Catholic school first grade to third grade, and then, I moved to Delaware with my family and then they still made me go to youth group and… [chuckle] I still had to go like…
How often do you have mass for school?
For when I went to private school, we would go every day.
Oh, no. Oh, God.
Yeah, we had a little mini service before lunch or whatever. And then, when I moved to Delaware, then I would do a youth group class on Saturday. It would be like three times a week, I think.
I think, it’s a very Filipino thing. ‘Cause my mom, she was dead-on like, “If you’re not religious, you’re gonna go to a religious school ’cause people are better there.” That’s her thing. So I’m like, “Okay,” I didn’t really have a choice. But it was like every Wednesday there was a mass and then Sunday there was a mass and it was odd ’cause they would make everyone dress up on Sunday, and girls must wear a dress and they wear heels. It’s like, it’s all weird. The messed up thing is one of the pastor there, two years after I left the school, he was kicked out ’cause he was sexually harassing one of the students. ‘Cause our old girl storm building had these fire escape on the set side and this girl’s room was right on the fire escape. This guy was texting her like, “I’m gonna come up through the fire escape.” And it was crazy. And I’m… Yeah. I can’t deal with religion.
Wow, that is wild.
It is wild. [chuckle]
Oh my God. So were they pretty strict with you guys?
They were. They had social rules. You had to write to the school before you date someone.
To date someone?
Yeah. They need to approve of the relationship.
What?
And if you’re caught touching each other, they would take your phone away and you’re supposed to stay six feet away from each other. If you get in trouble, it would… I had two phones [chuckle] so I would turn in that one and be like, “Yeah, fuck y’all.” [chuckle]
You were like, “Yeah, you can take my phone. It’s fine. I don’t even care.” [chuckle]
They cut off Internet at ten. So I got a WiFi, portable WiFi, cause I was taking all these classes and I needed the internet to do some of these works. It’s like, “You can’t shut off the internet and expect us to do work.” It’s just, yeah, that school was nuts. [chuckle]
Oh my God. That’s so wild. So were… So you were a little bit bad. You were bad with your two phones.
I was a good student. I was secretly bad, but ’cause you would get kicked out so easy. If you’re caught smoking, you’re done. If you’re caught hooking up with someone or making out, you’re done. And when you’re done you’re sent back home to Hong Kong, not just like in the… It’s just a lot of pressure to kind of not be too bad. But…
So you were a good bad girl?
At the time. [chuckle]
Did you date a lot?
I did hike and smoke and then hike back. [chuckle] We get vapes online ’cause if you smoke, we couldn’t get the smell. So we would usually hike into the woods and smoke out whole pack and then change clothes and then go back. But then once I realized you could buy vapes online, that was like, “Game changer.” [laughter] I had to buy a couple things to confuse them, ’cause sometimes they would check your package and to be caught with a vape would’ve been… [laughter]
Game over.
Pretty much.
So did you date a lot in high school?
I did date, it was just one dude. But then after college, I kind of dated more. But then sugaring became more fun just ’cause… You know what? I’m dealing with these people on Tinder. Some of them annoy me. But I could go over here where it’s kinda same type of deal, but get paid, sometimes travel. I mean, the options was just obvious at the time. And when you work from home with design work and stuff, you just have a lot more free time. I miss traveling so much though. It’s been two years, three years since I left the country, it’s…
Same, I think it’s been… Oh I just went to Mexico. Nevermind. But [laughter] before that, it was a while.
But like leave North America.
What’s your favorite place that you’ve traveled to?
I’d have to say the Netherlands. And…
Oh, wow.
It was amazing. Where else? Iceland actually, I went…
Wow.
Three years ago, July. Did a drive around with my family. It’s so worth going if you like the wilderness, lava, moss type of… Oh, a lot of waterfalls too. That’s the best. Where… I’m trying to think. Yeah, Iceland really. It’s like one of my favorites.
My friend… [chuckle] Yeah. My friend just went to Iceland. She was showing me all the pictures. I was like, oh my God, I did not realize how beautiful it was. She did the same thing. She went from Iceland to the Netherlands, but it was so funny, she was showing me like the pictures and all the like street names were so awesome.
Oh, God. I went with my mom and my sister and my mom she posts everything on Facebook, right? So she’s like, so I had the map laid out on the Google Map downloaded, ’cause I can’t remember all those names. Like K-J-E-I-L-L-L-L-G-P-P-P. And it’s just like… So after each place we stopped in, my mom’s like, “Hey, where did we… What was that waterfall? Where did we go?” [chuckle] And I’m like, “Oh, it’s… I’ll spell it to you and it’s like K…” [chuckle] And there’s so lot. And she would ask almost every… I’m like, “Mom, just look,” and she’s like, “I can’t see. Just read it to me.” It’s just like, ooh! But, yeah.
It looks like a generated password. Like…
It will do. And if you don’t have a pin on your card, make sure you do, ’cause a lot of gas station, they don’t have a person there. If you don’t have a pin on your card, you’re fucked. They won’t accept that card. Like luckily, my mom had a card that had a pin because I didn’t know, my card had, like could even have a pin. So like, yeah. Quick tip for Iceland. [chuckle]
Wow! I didn’t know that either. So since you grew up with mostly Chinese cultural influence, what’s your favorite part of Chinese culture?
I would say the no bullshit-ness. [chuckle]
They’re straight-up with you. Like no matter what, if it’s gonna hurt your feelings, they will tell you. They don’t care.
Very much, yeah. It’s just… I’m so used to going to school and people being really comfortable just telling you what did you do with your hair? Why does it look like… Or it’s like, you look like you had… They do not have the same type of filter as people does over here.
Yeah. They’re like, “Oh, you’re gaining weight.” Like okay, thank you.
“Oh, you look like you’re homo.” It’s just like, yeah. [chuckle] I do love it though just ’cause I’m used to it. Yeah. [chuckle]
Yeah. For sure.
And also work a lot like faster.
Oh, it’s so hard.
It’s like going through like a supermarket check out in Hong Kong is very much like, hurry up, give me the money. Come on. Like if you take your time, she’s just gonna… Like there’s no patience and like taking up other people’s time. What else do I… I think food, really dim sum. I miss dim sum so much. [chuckle]
I wish I could have dim sum later in the day. [chuckle]
It’s not just, yeah, me too. [chuckle] You have to get up so early and show up to the place. Sometimes you have to stand in line. [laughter] And looking like the way, I hear all the older people are just like, “Oh, you speak Cantonese? Where are you from?” [chuckle] Like the same speech. But I miss it a lot. I can’t wait to go back. This is the longest it’s been since I not have gone back and it’s really unfair this thing about Hong Kong government, even though I was born and raised there, I speak the language and I have the permanent resident card ’cause I was born there. If I didn’t return for over three years, they would take that away and I would just go back to like a tourist status and it’s just so unfair, just ’cause I’m not Chinese ethnically.
Oh, like what the heck? Yeah, I have dual citizenship with the US and Philippines.
I have the US and the Philippines too, ’cause I’m not allowed to get the Hong Kong passport. Because, “No Chinese blood.” That’s what the person said to me, the immigration person. “You don’t have Chinese blood.” It’s like…
You’re like, “I’m basically Chinese.” [chuckle]
I speak the language. I know. [chuckle]
When it comes to performing, what are your like favorite roles to do? What do you like creating the most?
I did a lot of dildo-play on my own, just ’cause I didn’t have anyone to do it with. I enjoyed it, but I do like having a real dick now. We also do a lot more fetish videos, so those are interesting. And just ’cause we’re in a relationship, there’s a lot of trust, so we could do weirder ones without it being awkward. We recently did what, it was a navel sniff. So this guy wanted a ten-minute video of me basically forcing him to sniff my belly button. So the first video we did, we did it, we felt we did it good, we sent it to him and he got mad. He’s like… He felt like he didn’t sniff my belly button hard enough. So we’re like, we’re now feeling bad, you know? It’s just like, well, I wanna make this right. So we re-shot the video and this time he… I shoved it and he really got it. [chuckle] And to the point where his stubble got my belly just all red and raw, but he loved that video. So that’s like… So that’s something I’ll do. [chuckle]
So you have fun like making customs and stuff like that?
Yeah, I chewed a gummy bear the other night and like…
Wait, what about gummy bears?
I chew them up. [chuckle] I get a lot of tongue requests too, because I have a really long…
Oh, do you? Wow. [chuckle]
But they would make me do like, I’d play games with my tongue, piano tiles on the iPad. [chuckle]
Woah.
A lot of licking.
That’s really fun-sounding.
It’s, yeah, it keeps it exciting.
What songs have you played with your tongue?
It’s all… Piano Tiles have the classical music. It’s like… [vocalization]
Damn girl, you can play… You’re like: “I can play Beethoven with my tongue, you know I’m a good kisser.”
Oh, easy. Easy.
Okay, let’s go and look at the questions from everyone in here. Everyone seems to be very interested in your hair. One was like, what do you do if your hair smells bad? She washes it, probably.
Right? I have a DIY de-tangling spray ’cause this shit gets so tangled. I use a conditioner with water and a spray bottle and get that shit off.
How long is your hair?
This is the longest I’ve ever had, I don’t know how long is this… It’s…
Woah, it’s past your waist.
It’s halfway down my butt crack.
That is so long.
My perfect hair length, I think it’s right here, cause right now it’s getting… I can’t put it up type…
It’s so pretty though.
Thank you.
My hair is pretty long too, it’s past my boobs. But I still wear…
Do you have people that play with your hair ’cause the texture is… I remember in boarding school I would get my hair done by girls. They were like: “Oh, your hair is so soft.” It’s like the same texture of my mom’s hair. So I’m like: “Thank you mom.”
Thank you for the Filipino hair that we have.
Yes.
Do you do a lot of hair fetish videos? Do your fans make you do those?
I’ve done a couple. Usually it’s just solo hair brushing, touching, but we did one where I gave a hair job, which… ‘Cause my hair is long enough so I would wrap and go. And then one, I had to cum in the hair. It really needs to be a dirty hair day for this, that’s all I’m saying ’cause…
Wow, I didn’t know that that was a thing.
Yeah, I didn’t either.
That’s cool. I’m playing with my hair now.
Me too, it’s good to fidget.
Okay, so someone asked: “What are your goals for the future? Are there other things that you wanna achieve?”
I think I wanna travel more. I’ve never been to Africa. It’s a continent I’ve never been, I wanna go. I wanna go to more Asian countries, I wanna see… I’ve been to Singapore but this was 2008 and it’s changed so much since, I wanna go back. Travel and work goals-wise I’m building a website where like a rating body part of the boys type of website. I’m working on that. It’s a lot, a lot of my design skill getting pulled out but it’s pretty exciting ’cause me and two of my friends here, we do a… We did a dick rating video where we just found generic dicks online and… ‘Cause it was three girls so it became pretty brutal. You’d think people would be offended, but ever since then, I just get so many requests: “Rate my dick, rate my dick, rate my dick.”
Yeah, so you’re brutally honest for yours?
Yeah I do it brutally honest.
That’s funny, when people ask me to rate them, I’m always like: “Okay, so do you want me to be honest? Or do you want me to be nice and tell you everything’s perfect?”
It’s hard ’cause sometimes they get offended and never come back. And then it’s like: “Did we just ruin this guy forever?” But then…
I have a whole grading scale for them.
Nice. That’s awesome. I could be mean and real nice. It’s awesome.
Let’s see if we have any more. Oh, someone said: “What is your definition of success and what is your daily routine?”
Definition of success is being content with what you have, where you’re at, who you’re with. Being grateful and just always… If you’re in a position where you could help somebody, always try and just be nicer than is necessary. I think that’s success. And having pets or kids for some people. I have three cats with my boyfriend, so…
Awww. That’s so cute. And what is your daily routine?
Daily routine… I try to get up, usually get laundry in and then get ready, try and write out what I need to do, important stuff, and go from there. One tackle at a time, usually a lot of computer work, that’s a lot. I wanted to show you these origami I make nights. So, after work you know how you stare at the computer for a long time, your eyes are all fucked. So it’s good to do some handy craft work to kind of balance. I make these origami stars.
Wow. They’re beautiful.
So you make like… They’re Japanese, Kusudama they’re called. Oh, I learned to make them in boarding school in Oregon, my math teacher was really into them. So he taught me to make one of them. And these are like, so you get square paper and you make each unit. So this is like 30 unit that you’re like weaving to each other. But I…
Wow.
Have this line made over COVID that has 90 unit.
Wow. They’re beautiful.
Yeah. It’s like, you can do origami if you’re not Japanese.
Wow.
Therapeutic. Yeah.
I love it. I used to make, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen them, but there are these little tiny origami strips.
Oh, yeah. The stars.
And I would make the mini stars and then just fill up a little glass of mini stars. That’s the only origami I can make.
[overlapping conversation] …Perfume in them where like the stars would smell so good. But yeah, these are fun. Look, look them up. They’re pretty. I mean, it takes a lot of time, but if you do like a couple every night, it’s like a good fidget.[laughter] Oh, my God. Those are so beautiful. Okay. We’ll take one more question. And then we will go because I feel like I can talk to you all day. But I’m not gonna take your time like that. Okay. So the next question is, “If you were not in the adult industry, what is one thing you’d be doing or would love to be doing?”
I would probably get into computer science. I really wanna learn how to code, because when I went to design school, they teach you how to build website but more in a design sense, not in a utility coding-wise. So it, I think that that would be what I would be in, but I’m kind of starting to learn that. But if…
Oh, cool.
I would not be doing porn, I would just go probably straight back to school and work on that. But I kind of like taking my time learning on my own.
That’s amazing. A quick question for me. I mean, this isn’t what anyone else has. “How many dialects do you speak?”
Oh, so English, Cantonese, Chinese, Tagalog, and Spanish. I took Spanish in high school and it was my second major in college. So it’s like, when people are like, “Oh, you speak Spanish, you must be Latina.” It’s like, it was, I just studied it really hard, but it’s also really similar with Tagalog. So it’s really easy to pick up if you know one or the other.
Wow. That’s so amazing. Oh, my God. It was so much fun learning about you and getting to talk to you today.
Thank you. It was so great to meet you finally. I was really…
I know, wait, are you in LA now?
I’m in Oceanside, like San Diego.
Oh, okay. Nice. Well, hopefully we will get to meet in person one day.
We’ll cross paths, would be great.
Yes. I would love that. Did you wanna share any of your social medias or whatever?
Yeah, I don’t wanna say too much. This is my seventh Instagram page, but y’all know what to do… [laughter]
Man, the Instagram police. Okay. Be nice to us, Instagram.
Truly. We’re nice girls. [laughter]
We’re good girls. Thank you so much for celebrating Asian American Pacific Islander heritage month with me. We have more guests coming up. Thank you for spending the day with me. Thank you for answering all of these questions. Everyone make sure you go and follow Viva Athena on Twitter, on Instagram, your fan pages. Follow her for her new website and hopefully we’ll see more movies on HotMovies.
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